asemic net: September 2012

Sunday, September 30, 2012

Saturday, September 29, 2012

Beyond Elmer Olpuk

This is one of those things that happen when you're trying to do something else.

Thursday, September 27, 2012

throat sounds -Tanya Tagaq
another great contrast between primitive sounds and expert skills.

I think the continuum set-up was still inconsistent,
for instance if it is going to represent 'talk without words' all the words have to go;

throat sounds	vocal dynamics	sound mimicry	speech mimicry
gargling ...	sound poetry ...	beatbox ....	idioglossia ...

there is now halfway a shift from internal to external (mimicry).

human beatbox -Doug E Fresh,

(I think a lot more can be said and done about the topic and there are probably lots more good examples but I'll leave it here, feel free to contribute)

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http://marcvanelburg.blogspot.nl/
see also;
https://www.flickr.com/photos/het-saptrajekt/
https://www.youtube.com/user/4398574291811/videos
http://tellab.home.xs4all.nl/

Tuesday, September 25, 2012

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TALK WITHOUT WORDS (3)

reflexes
babbling
coherent speech
primal scream
throat sounds
word -salad
speaking in tongues
idioglossia
pseudo language
scat singing
sound poetry

I have now placed most of the continuum after coherent speech because I think that most examples do not represent language acquisition but language control.
I thought this time I'd start with a primal scream right after coherent speech, like a teenage angst; (speaking the language perfectly but only technical, so the expressive part is like an amorph emotional burp).
The continuum now represents the increase of voluntary control.
I've positioned word salad earlier than before because it represents also a lack of control, only not the emotional/ intuitive but the technical/ executive.

Mike Patton (moonchild)
the 'primal sceaming' in combination with the music stand is interestingly strange.
I think because it hints at the difference between how musicians and nonmusicians express emotions in music.
Since 'split-brain patients' roughly showed the right side of the brain to be holistic and intuitive and the left analytic or logical it would be reasonable to assume that skilled musicians show greater activity in the right brain.
But the opposite is true. " Melodies are composed of an ordered series of pitches, and hence should be processed by the left hemisphere rather than the right"

Language acquisition
Speechome Project: A Time-Lapse of a Child Acquiring the Word "Ball"
complete TED talk
http://www.ted.com/talks/deb_roy_the_birth_of_a_word.html

Signal and timing; Harpo Marx

by
http://marcvanelburg.blogspot.nl/
see also;
https://www.flickr.com/photos/het-saptrajekt/
https://www.youtube.com/user/4398574291811/videos
http://tellab.home.xs4all.nl/

Monday, September 24, 2012

hang

Sunday, September 23, 2012

TALK WITHOUT WORDS (2)

throat sounds
sound poetry
scat singing
pseudo language
idioglossia
speaking in tongues
word -salad
coherent speech

Yamatsuka Eye and hanatarash

scat al jarreau

idioglossia, twin talk
Probably everybody has seen this but it's an example that shows the continuum in action in that they imitate conversation before they know the words.

One question about the continuum concept that comes to mind is when one looks at artists that produce throatsounds like Eye,(or like asemic scribbles) is wether they are tapping into a state that they acquired as a kid,
or did they learn a new state by for instance looking and imitating kids or animals.
In the latter case shouldn't they be positioned after coherent speech ?
If they are put before coherent speech it implies idealizing an earlier state of development, or a rejection of coherent language, instead of an addition to coherent language.
Maybe insert a 'post linguistic grunt' position.

Another one is the position of word-salad.
Put after pseudo language the acquired syntax has suddenly disappeard,
but positioned before pseudo language it's the vocabulary that disappears in the next step.

Francis E Dec. somewhere between wordsalad and coherent speech.

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http://marcvanelburg.blogspot.nl/
see also;
https://www.flickr.com/photos/het-saptrajekt/
https://www.youtube.com/user/4398574291811/videos
http://tellab.home.xs4all.nl/

x-ray

gridout

Saturday, September 22, 2012

plais

Friday, September 21, 2012

TALK WITHOUT WORDS (1)

-Contiguous to the asemic continuum, (and hopefully not too far off the asemic grid)

a continuum of asemic speech. 'talk without words'

(listening to michael jacobson's mynd eraser)

>throat sounds>>>sound poetry>>>pseudo language>>>speaking in tongues>>>word -salad>>

some offhand examples

Ziggy Atem.
I first saw this about 10 years ago on a japanese VHS. (AUGEN)
The show included a transvestite dancer dancing dramatically around Ziggy Atem who was making some kind of proclamation in his own language. Very alien and obscure.

(throat sounds) id M Theft Able (Portland U.S.)
Around since late 90's, I have some his earlier stuff, very personal intimate sounds and dadaistic utterances.

Jaap Blonk (sound poetry, pseudo language and throat sounds)
mindboggling voice acrobatics, lots of great stuff on youtube.

Kurt Schwitters
The Ursonate, sound poetry from 1922

Speaking in tongues, great performance by a young christian dadaist

by
http://marcvanelburg.blogspot.nl/
see also;
https://www.flickr.com/photos/het-saptrajekt/
https://www.youtube.com/user/4398574291811/videos
http://tellab.home.xs4all.nl/